Expanding the Voyageurs Cup
By Ben Knight
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With this week’s happy news that Edmonton is joining Whatever The Second Division Is Called in 2011, Canada now apparently has four men’s professional soccer teams.Â
Edmonton sources confirm the CSA has already invited the new team to join Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver in the Voyageurs Cup a year from now.
Much has already been written about possible formats for such a tournament, so I’m going to write from a more emotional perspective.
Maybe you have to live here – and be immersed in the soccer scene – to understand why a true Canadian soccer league is never going to fly. Geography is unalterable. The lack of facilities will take decades to address. Lack of public interest longer still.
Personally, I’ve always welcomed the obstacles. It’s much more competitively and dramatically interesting to have Canadian teams in a cross-border league with the Americans.Â
Canada-only could easily become worse that Scotland, with the same teams winning all the time, and everyone else struggling to put a few hundred fans in the stands.
I have always argued that the Voyageurs Cup should be opened to amateur and semi-pro teams, as well. The reigning CSL champions from Trois-Rivieres should have been given some oddball chance to qualify. Maybe a home-and-home with the Montreal Impact, who finished last in the V-Cup round-robin a year ago. The fact that TR is Montreal’s farm team feels like an irresistible bonus.
But with Edmonton’s inclusion, I’d like to suggest putting further expansion of the Canadian championship tournament on hold – for one year.
Let’s do a four-team round robin in 2011. A double one – with everybody playing everyone else twice. Â
It’s not a practical long-term solution. Too many games for teams with limited resources and tiny rosters. Also, it’s almost inevitable one or two teams will be mathematically ousted early, and several of the late matches will be essentially meaningless.
A single round-robin would address this. Everyone plays everybody once, with two teams getting two home games, and the others just one. Six matches in total – just like now. Maybe a seventh – please! – a one-game national championship final, held on Canada Day.
(That last part is going to be really tough to swing. Either you ask all four teams to hold July 1 open on their schedules (which is a waste of a primo date) or you award the game to one team at the get-go, and hope like heck you don’t end up with a neutral-site game, which will be a very hard sell wherever the game is played. Toronto-Montreal in Edmonton? Whitecaps-TFC in Montreal?)
What would be wonderful – for one year – is a shadow Canadian league. We’re never going to get one any other way.Â
Remember – Canada is the world’s greatest hockey nation, and does not have its own top-flight pro league. Superb regional junior hockey leagues? Oh yeah! – and that’s also the best model for moving Canadian soccer forward. Pro teams in MLS and Insert Name Of Division Two Here, junior clubs all over everywhere developing future Canadian World Cup stars.
Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and Edmonton. Run it for a year, and then figure out how to crown a national semi-pro champion, and get them involved in qualifying.Â
There will never be enough clubs or resources to make Canadian pro soccer thrive on its own. Yes, MLS is saddled with the blandness of endless interchangeable opponents, most of whom still don’t have distinct identities for TFC fans even after three full and dramatic seasons. But seeing nothing but Canadian opposition all the time will get dreadfully dull, really fast.
A four-team double round-robin is not sustainable, nor should it be. But it would be an awesome thing to experience once – and a fine dramatic yardstick for all future Voyageurs Cup formats to be measured against.
And it will be huge fun – especially if nobody even remotely understands it Stateside.
Onward!



February 12th, 2010 at 10:28 am
The difficulty (and it’s a nice problem to have) that will face the VC organizers won’t really arrive until team five. Although there are other options, four teams is still just small enough to do a home and away round robin meaning six games per team. Beyond four, though, it’s just too much. And yet we don’t have enough tier three teams with the necessary resources to just blow the whole thing open and go for a multi-round, everyone-welcome tournament like the US Open Cup. So welcome aboard, Edmonton, but now’s the time to start planning for what to do when Ottawa (2013 with Landsdowne Park) and Hamilton (2015 with the Pan Am games stadium) arrive.
Ben, can you (or anyone else) clear up whether Edmonton and Vancouver actually are linked? Initial newspaper reports said yes but recently other sources have said no. Because if it’s no and the Whitecaps still want an NASL team we’d be getting yet another Canadian side very soon.
February 12th, 2010 at 10:35 am
I think the MLS squads get priority in a 5 team and up Cup. Have the lower divisions play-off in order to gain entry into the final 4. Assuming of course that Montreal is an MLS squad and if they are not, that would be pretty funny. Montreal vs Trois Riviere, Edmondon et al, for the chance to play Toronto. Ha ha.
Anyway, how cool would that be. Trois Riviere beats Edmonton, Ottawa and Hamilton (assuming they all have teams) and joins the big boys on the big stage. That’s how you do it.
February 12th, 2010 at 11:02 am
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February 12th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Well, we are putting the cart some way before the horse in worrying about how to fit multiple teams into our Amway cup when we still have just the three, but there are many options.
The round robin aspect need not be kept for the entire championship, IMO. There is significant benefit in creating rivalries, but I’ve never been happy with the round robin concept for deciding a champion (witness last year’s embarrassment for Canadian Football in the final game at Saputo stadium). So, when we actually have the problem of too many teams for a round robin, I suggest they consider splitting the pools… have an “eastern” and “western” (it doesn’t have to be a geographical distinction) round robin to determine the two best teams in each region, then send them into straight knockout playoffs (national semifinals and finals).
This could work for anything up to 10 teams or so, and makes it relatively easy to include a couple of regional semi pro champions in the mix as well, without facing the problems involved when the lesser teams are well and truly out of the competition after one or two games, yet still have four (televised) games to play (in the event there are four teams).
The regional round robin concept would keep travel costs manageable for the smaller clubs, and give their fans a chance to see the games (unlike TR playing a qualifier at Swangard) live. It would also eliminate the lesser squads before the semi finals, meaning the “national exposure” games will be much higher quality. Broadcasting a laugher like Montreal’s pathetic effort vs Toronto last year doesn’t expand the game nationally, it makes it a joke to casual viewers.
Now, if only we could get the CBC to acknowledge that there is football played somewhere other than BMO field in this country…
February 12th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Great points John and I’d imagine the CBC will happily showcase Vancouver in 2011 and Montreal if and/or when they make it to the show.
February 12th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
The voice of reason!! I’m glad to read that I’m not the only one to think that a strictly Canadian league would never work if for nothing else for the fact that Canada is so damn big(geographically), its a hard pill to swallow but its one that is good for the general health of Canadian Soccer going forward domestically and Internationally. Playing ball with and alongside the States has never been a bad thing and we will reap the benefits of this participation in the future just as the old boys did back in ‘86.
We just need the V-Cup to satisfy our cross Canadian rivalries and to be honest there is a small chance that one of our teams from up north may get to step on to the same pitch as the legendary European and South American clubs, slim but the chance is still there and thats the best feeling in the world IMO.
This tounrney will just get bigger and better as Soccer in Canada continues to gain speed with a little help from the MLS and “Joe supporter” south of the border.
February 12th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
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February 15th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
If and when we see a lot of MLS and NASL Canadian teams, I would like to see the Voyageurs Cup replace the play offs for the Canadian teams. They would play in the MLS and NASL during the year to win the league but would not participate in the play-offs. Instead Canadian teams would play round robin and then play-offs against the best teams. So we would have a Canadian league. Just one with a short fall season.
February 18th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Here’s hoping Edmonton’s new team gets better support than the Aviators ever did. More pro teams in Canada will help the sport and will make for some competetive Voyageurs Cup play.
February 18th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Just in general, folks: I don’t mind being insulted, but let’s not insult each other, okay?
Big grin // Ben
February 19th, 2010 at 9:01 am
John Bladen,
While people posting here view the Montreal fiasco as a bad thing, the casual viewer probably thought it was exciting soccer. After all, when do you see that many goals in the boring game of soccer?
February 19th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Kingston:
Potentially, yes… I can see where watching the goals filled with footballs is the casual fan’s idea of a good game. And certainly the casual fan is who MLS/NCC are looking to recruit - but not at the expense of the core. They need to walk that tightrope carefully… cultivate new fans, but not lose the dyed in the wool fans through mickey mouse behaviour (like the NHL has been doing for years, but I digress…).
That said, if a 6-1 game between unequals is exciting, would 12-1 be twice as exciting?
We’ve just seen Wolves fined (sort of) for fielding a sub par side. This happened, happily enough, against ManU - who’ve made an art form of playing all out in cup QF’s against lesser opposition, then mailing in the SF so they can concentrate on Champion’s League… If I’m Mick McCarthy, I have to ask why. I’ve no doubt he will do so when one of the big four does what he’s just done and is not penalised.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:40 am
For the question of when the Voyageurs Cup will have to deal with a fifth or sixth entrant, one option is to copy the current system in place in Costa Rica (it is going to be discontinued after this tournament, but that’s another story). The teams would be drawn into two groups of three, playing its group opponents twice and teams in the other groups once. Then, once the games are done, the group winners would play each other in a Championship game, with the winner (and hopefully the 2nd place, if by then Canada’s earned itself a 2nd spot) qualifying for the Champions League.
With five teams (one group of three, and another of two), teams would play seven matches at most, and eight in the six-team option. It wouldn’t work for more Canadian teams than that (assuming no Canadian league), but for five or six it is an option.