Preki: first impressions
By Ben Knight
He’s got some rascal in him, this one.
Thursday’s BMO Field presser announcing details of the 2010 Voyageurs Cup tournament was the first chance I’ve had to study Toronto FC’s new coach eyeball-to-eyeball.
Preki – new to the whole thing, lurching back and forth between loosey-goosey and tentative – put on an intriguing show.
While his fellow coaches (Marc Dos Santos of the Montreal Impact, Teitur Thordarson of the Vancouver Whitecaps) sat obediently and somewhat nervously behind their respective microphones, Preki lounged/sprawled way back in his chair, making occasional whispered jokes, clearly enjoying himself.
Asked to speak of the Canadian competition’s importance, he shrugged off his total inexperience with the tournament, noting he has already seen that the V-Cup generates far more excitement in Canada than its American counterpart – the U.S. Open Cup – does Stateside.
He was prepared for that one. The intriguing part, for me, was watching this sharp, calculating, Mercurial man when caught a little bit off-guard.
Comes a good question (Lee Godfrey, GOL-TV) about the relative importance of league and V-Cup matches. Thordarson fields it, saying the Voyageurs Cup is very important to the Whitecaps, and that his team is looking forward to giving its all in what he expects will be some entertaining, high-quality matches.
Preki, deeply reclined, suddenly realizes everyone is looking at him. He straightens, wondering aloud if he was supposed to answer the question too. No one says “no.” Now he’s improvising. And, interestingly, he tells the truth.
The TFC coach rambles on for a good minute or more, stating beyond any doubt that MLS matches are far more important. His main goal is to win in the league, therefore league games have to take priority. Perhaps sensing the cup-happy room has suddenly gone a bit quiet, Preki adds a slightly awkward tag line that cup matches are great, too.
I’ve seen lots of coaches get caught off-guard in many different ways. Some get flustered; some go all quiet. Some crank up the used-car-salesman routine, deflecting the question to offer you power wiper blades on the way by.
Preki, there to bolster the cup, emphatically thudded on about the Canadian competition’s relative unimportance.
This opens an intriguing possibility. There may be real profit for the TFC journo crowd in asking Preki vague questions. It seems as though, when he’s not completely clear on what he’s been asked, he answers all the possibilities at once – straight from the heart, gut and truth.
Hmm.
Whatever strategic shortcomings former TFC bench bosses John Carver and Chris Cummings possessed, they were blessedly frank and straight-forward talkers. Preki is clearly a man of many layers, and it won’t be nearly so easy now to deduce the spot-on from the spin.
The trick may be – and I’ll let you know how it goes – to concoct a sufficiently vague question.
This is going to be fun, folks.
Onward!



February 6th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Of course the whole “cup” is a joke in Canada,since only 3 teams are in it to start!!!The only reason for it is to put a Canadian team to the Concacaf Champ. League,but as far as a true National Cup in Canada it’s zero importance.
Normally,National Cups even in soccer countries,where thousends of Teams compete,still take second seat for the top teams,who need to deliver results in the top pro-leagues…Cup is for the B-Team players,reserves,youngsters etc…and to give the A-Team players a break!!!…
Nice to see Preki doesn’t lie,at least…But because hes is from Europe/Serbia,he understands this well.
February 7th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
“No!” to MM`s post!!
Yes, there’s only 3 teams in the tourny, but we’ve only got 3 truly rich & populous cities in the whole country. (Calgary & Ottawa are nice places to live, but in GDP/population/int’l influence/things that matter, they’re not the Big Three.)
The real attraction of the V-Cup is the glory and bragging rights it gives inhabitants of the Big Three cities, and that matters since there is *no* other soccer venue that allows all of them to square off. Let`s say TFC beats MLS teams from 2nd-rate cities like Columbus, Kansas City or Salt Lake - who cares? There’s more glory in trashing Montreal 6-1 or beating those West Coast
The V-Cup is English vs French. East vs West. New corporate money (MLSE) vs soccer heart & history (Whitecaps). And V-Cup history will seeth behind every Cup or League match played between Montreal and Vancouver from here on out.
Because US soccer clubs generally don’t correspond to the biggest city rivalries in America, Preki’s never felt the same vibe in the Open Cup as he does with the V-Cup. Because he’s from Europe, he doesn’t understand why it’s different here in Canada.
But he will soon.
Interesting observations from Ben about Preki though. Should be fun to see the “rascal” Preki throughout the season.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
Further to CSF’s comments above…………the glory of the FA Cup lives because people care about it.
Look at the ads Setanta play for the Cup……..that is real, that is not PR crap from their marketing group.
Preki may not fully appreciate the importance of it now, but he will.
February 7th, 2010 at 8:44 pm
Casual Soccer Fan and Observer…
Canada a G-7 country is “rich” enough to have a soccer professional team in every city over 20K of population.The fact we don’t have that is a reflection of what the populous cares about…
3 teams,regardles of whom and what they are, are good for a weekend tourney,but no one seriously can call that a National Cup.
Hopefully,one day…:)
February 7th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
MM, don’t want to get into a silly argument over the issue, but you are dead wrong about Canada being rich enough to support professional soccer in every town (not a city) with population over 20,000.
Have you been to a CSL game lately? That is supposedly Canada’s professional league and they barely attract 100 spectators.
We have a National Championship and who gives a toss that only 3 teams partake of it, for now. It is what it is, accept it.
February 7th, 2010 at 11:43 pm
observers…
The 100 spectators are relatives of the players…
I am not saying that there is public/fan base for it,I am saying that Canada has enough resources/money to make it happened,if the society wanted it and considered it even a little bit of a priority…
February 8th, 2010 at 9:30 am
“What do you think about stuff?”
Great question to open an interview with Preki. You’ll get his innermost fears and thoughts guaranteed.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:09 am
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February 8th, 2010 at 10:41 am
Any chance the V-Cup could ever open the competition up to all Canadian amateur clubs- FA Cup style?
Even if only 1 spot is made available in the final group stage with Mtl, T.O. & Van- I think it would create a hell of a buzz and inject some life and $$$ on the amateur/DEVELOPMENTAL level. Also, I just feel a group of 4 makes more sense than a group of 3 (Does a group of 3 have a higher potential for collusion?)
Hell, it might even help grow an amateur club enough that they could make the jump to pro? (I know little about the MLS structure….so not sure if it’s even possible…. just daydreaming)
February 8th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RLT, as far as I am aware the FA cup is not open to amateur teams.
All teams participating must be a member of the football league, which is governed by the FA.
From wikipedia:
“The English football league system does not include the amateur version of the game often called Sunday league football. These leagues are independent entities with no promotion or relegation involving the football pyramid. However, some Sunday League clubs have been known to join pyramid leagues if they desire to progress higher.”
Once an amateur team joing one of the pyramid leagues they are no longer classified as being amateur.
With respect to Canada, I have long felt that the CSL champion really should be included in the V Cup.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
What neither Preki nor MM seem to understand is that winning the MLS Championship does not give TFC the right to enter Concacaf or any other tournament. Only the Voyageurs Cup winner gets to represent Canada. Therefore, in our case, the Cup matters more. Preki needs to be made to understand this.
February 8th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Observer/RLT:
The FA cup is open to part timers, but not amateur clubs.
In our case, I would agree that the NCC needs a system to select a fourth team (at least). I’ve long been an advocate of a playoff system that would produce a single club from amongst our semi professional ranks (rough analogues for part timers in the EFA) to join the competition.
I have every confidence that whichever semi-pro club earned the right to play in the NCC would be comfortably swept aside by the three professional clubs. However, if we want to call it a “National” championship, we need a method to include the various tiers of part time and semi professional clubs as well. The ranks of same will grow in the coming years with Ottawa, Hamilton, possibly Edmonton all joining in. We also have lower tier USL clubs playing in this country. In short, I think it’s time to address this deficiency, perhaps through a qualifying tournament for the fourth spot in the NCC.
February 8th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
It should be opened to “provincial champions”,”CSL champions” etc…and others who as a club met certain criteria!!!
February 9th, 2010 at 6:20 am
Adding a fourth team would not just adjust the balance of teams, but allow for the self-funding of smaller clubs, that is to the benefit of football’s growth in the country; rather then whine about the government or CSA funding the sports growth, it would happen organically. If you’re the Trois-Riviers Attak, you’re telling me that you wouldn’t get more fans out if Montreal or Toronto was the visiting team? Similarly, as TFC, think they usual suspects would stay home rather then watch the minnows (no offense) visiting?
On a funding basis, as well as a competitive one, opening the competition up to ALL our countries clubs, rather than a cartel of three, makes a hell of a lot of sense.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:55 am
I agree with MM and Moss’s last comment. Since this tournaments inception, I’ve felt that to be considered a truly national championship, other pro clubs should be included — no matter what league or size.
This includes: USL and its levels and the CSL. No amateur teams please. The tournament can start earlier to include early rounds…eventually leading to at least one ‘cinderella story’ qualifying to play against the big guns.
It will also provide experience and help the development of the lower levels of Canadian footy - which I hope we can all agree could use whatever aid is out there.
Right now I honestly feel that its simply a cash-grab by these three larger clubs — trying to use the Voyageur’s good name to create a positive PR spin.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Winning the Nutilite isn’t really something most Canadians care about, in terms of who gets bragging rights. But, when coupled with the fact it’s a ticket to Champions’ League, that makes winning the tourney more than of minor importance, as was cleary demonstrated by the Impact’s run 2 years ago.
February 9th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Observer/John Bladen,
Thanks for the correction/clarification re FA Cup.
Point is- I agree with spreading the V. Cup wealth by granting access to smaller pro & semi-pro clubs. It would give the Cup more relevance and provide a financial boost to clubs with ambitions for growth….and hopefully trickle down further to player development etc
February 9th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
Some of the clubs from English 4th or 5th league aren’t even “semi-pro”…They are amature clubs…Semi-pro is their 2nd Division{3rd league}
February 9th, 2010 at 7:34 pm
MM, what exactly are you saying when you say “semi-pro is their 2nd Division (3rd League)”?
Are you referring to League One (the true third division)?
In 2006 (the most recent figure I can find), the average salary in League One was £67,850 or roughly $115k Cdn (at today’s exchange rates).
Surely you are not saying that is a semi-pro salary?
February 9th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
Blizzard…
A lot of the players in that League and below have amature contracts and make nothing…It is a classical semi-pro environment…Few players make money,a lot don’t…Try to find median income,not average…In 3rd League and below.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
MM, as outlined above true amateur teams cannot play in the FA Cup.
Semi-pro is not amateur.
Now, let us return to Preki and TFC.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pm
Observer…
Since Canada has nothing but “true amature” teams,except the 3,the “canadian cup” could still include the top ones.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:15 am
Blizzard;
League One (the former 3rd division) is a fully professional league with players earning significant wages - as you described, $100k is not unusual, and the top players make significantly more than that).
The situation in League two is rather different. The thick end of L2 includes clubs that pay much like the L1 squads, top players making $100-200k p/a. As the clubs at the bottom are often newly promoted (or soon to be relegated) conference sides, it is not uncommon for a handful of the players on the bottom 3 or 4 sides to be earning what we would consider to be part time wages ($10-20k p/a, for example). That said, they are still considered full time professional footballers for the purpose of the FA cup, as are players in Conference National, C-north/south, and the lower rungs of the pyramid. Clubs that have squads of plumbers and apprentices earning $3-4k annually still qualify to play in the FA cup, only those who are ‘true amateurs’ and do not play in an FA sanctioned league are excluded.
HtH.
Ah, yes, Preki… looking forward to seeing the squad evolve under his stern leadership… I suspect a very different 11 will finish the season than that which starts it…
February 11th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Blizzard…
The English Football Association{FA}sanctions all football and leagues played in England…I believe there are 12 levels of Leagues,all sanctioned.
Typically,all national cups start including the smallest of teams that wish to enter in the pre-rounds and early rounds…
Most of those are definitely not professional.
Regardless,Canada doesn’t have more the 3 true pro-teams,with another handfull of semi-pro and rest totally amature…
If you wanted to generate excitment about a National Cup across the country,it should include as many teams and rounds as want to compete in it…
That’s my take,maybe wrong,maybe right.