TFC-Columbus not a real rivalry yet
By Ben Knight
Here’s a good one!
Q: How do you get Toronto FC fans to NOT look forward to opening day?
A: Schedule it in Columbus, Ohio.
MLS released a couple of weeks of early 2010 schedule today, and yay yippee fun, TFC travels to land of Angst and Archer for a season-opening kickabout on Saturday, March 27. The 4 PM kickoff is perfectly designed to allow Canadian fans to travel south, and still have plenty of daylight throughout the match.
It’s a pairing of somewhat-near geographic rivals, whose clashes have certainly generated heat and headlines in the past. Toronto won’t open at home until late April at the earliest if grass goes in at BMO Field, so the league has decided a gala lid-lifter in the Ohio capital is the next best thing.
That, dear folks, is a baloney sandwich without the bread, mustard and pickle wedge.
If you check the TFC fan boards today, the feeling is overwhelming:
Not Columbus. Not again.
Brief heart-felt and fair sidetrack: The Columbus Crew are one of the very best teams in MLS, Crew Stadium is a fine place to watch a game. Columbus fan culture is on the rise. The Nordecke is generating real passion now. If the rest of the dull, nervous city would just wake up and start buying tickets, a day at Crew Stadium can yet become a consistent high point in American soccer.
But very few Toronto fans want to go down that road again. Yes, there was bad behaviour by TFC fans in Columbus last spring. But 20 police cars roaring into an open field filled with post-game TFC pedestrians was … well, the subsequent arrest number – one – speaks most eloquently for itself.
MLS has skedded the Reds to play New England in Foxboro on April 10. That’s the game the fans want to spend their cash on. Boston’s a great sports town, a world-famous beer town, and TFC fans are treated much, much better there than they are in Columbus.
They seem to behave better there, too. Couldn’t be any kind of a connection, could there?
TFC travelling fans get treated particularly badly in two places: Columbus and Montreal. But they can’t wait to get back to Montreal. That’s a rivalry, folks, and no one had to create a bogus “Trillium Cup” to make it seem like it means something.
Security and policing in Columbus are naive, more than anything. In Montreal, they are genuinely nasty. Don’t look for any kind of help from security in Stade Saputo if you happen to be wearing red – TFC or Canada.
But Montreal is also effortless to get to, packed with culture and attractions … as up- or down-market as you’d ever care to go. The French thing adds real flavour. And Toronto fans like European flavour. (Notice those extra letter “U”s in that last sentence.)
Nothing can ever happen to make Toronto FC fans boycott Montreal.
And I don’t much think they’re going to boycott opening day in Columbus, either. But lots and lots of folks won’t go, and most of the rest won’t exactly be thrilled. It’s always tough, when you’re on foreign soil and don’t know what the cops are going to do next. Volunteering to spend money and pose for it? No deal.
I look forward to TFC-Crew ripening into a real rivalry – when history and tradition overcome fear and media hype, and grudging respect slowly congeals on both sides. That takes time, not dome lights and empty cups nobody cares about. Oh, and check the Columbus fan boards while you’re at it. They’re not happy about this match-up either.
Columbus is a perfectly fine town, and a vital cog in MLS. I just don’t want to be there next spring.
Dear MLS: Please schedule Toronto at Columbus for some nothing midweek night in June. Give fans on both sides time to work through – and get past – the anger.
We’ll tell you when this becomes a real rivalry. Have no doubt about it.
Onward!



September 25th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Well said Ben, keep up the good work.
(PS: New comment system is much better :D)
September 25th, 2009 at 7:54 am
I was really hoping Philadelphia would have been one of our first games posted this year. Can’t wait to head down for that one. You’re right on about the rest of it though Ben - Boston was a fantastic trip last year, and I can’t wait to head back. Columbus on the other hand I’ll be skipping this year - I think 3 trips there is enough for a lifetime.
September 25th, 2009 at 8:54 am
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September 25th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I’m not going to comment on what makes a rivalry “real”. I will say that there are an awful lot of blogs and forum posts floating around the Internet where both TFC and Crew fans spend a lot of time and effort denying that any sort of rivalry exists or that games between the two teams are particularly special. It sort of reminds me of grade school when a boy would loudly proclaim how much he didn’t like the girl he actually liked.
September 25th, 2009 at 10:25 am
This article (and the last four paragraphs in particular) is why you are one of my top one or two favorite soccer bloggers outside of the Crew sphere of influence. I’m a veteran of the last two Crew home openers with TFC. Both were pretty good matches on the pitch followed by a lot of online posturing regarding entirely over-blown parking-lot “incidents”, the blame for which falls in equal parts on idiot fans and an utterly unprepared police force. You, unlike a few notable bloggers, understand this and also understand that it’s in the past. There are others who seem to want to use this as a way of adding to their reputation as a “real supporter” and further the “conflict.” Why? Maybe it’s hits on their blog. Maybe it gets them points toward a new RPB beer can cozy. Maybe they think it makes them a little less creepy in the eyes of some barmaid. Who knows? Anyway, you said it right. And you did it without posting an image of a random street-mob flinging chairs. I’ll probably catch some grief with some of my fellow beloved Crew fans for saying something positive about your blog again, but they’ll get over it. Good job.
September 25th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I’n not sure about everybody out there, but I would consider Columbus our biggest rival. Artificial? Maybe, but no more than Montreal is. In terms of Canadian Soccer, I always thought of it as an Ontario vs BC thing, so I think Vancouver was always more significant than Montreal.
September 25th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Thanks, Scornflakes!
In many ways, TFC/Columbus is a internet rivalry more than a soccer one. So much poison, and what’s the blessed point? You have one truly special case down there. I don’t have a beef with Cbus fans in general.
There is a fear of the police, too. They’re going to have to get it right a few times down there before the vast majority of Toronto fans — the ones who DON’T cause trouble — feel safe in Columbus after a game.
I’m sure a lot of TFC fans will be there in March. I won’t.
September 25th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
wait… there’s RPB brand beer can cozies?!?!
how did I not know about them!
(ps. there is not such a thing… YET)
nice article Ben.
September 25th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Now, if Blowhard Archer moved to Kansas City, there’d be a real reason for hatred there…
Agreed, Ben, the stupidly-named-cup-of-the-week is an admission by MLS that it doesn’t have enough oomph for people to watch regular season games. With all due respect to the Columbus fans (we could use a few more of ‘em, even if they don’t like us much…), nobody needs a reason (or a fake trophy) to attend a real rivalry game. There is no physical prize for winning any of the London/Manchester/Milan derbies…
Rather than trying to create buzz (and failing), Garber needs to just let these things develop. To wit: had there not been a ‘fake’ cup up for grabs, the melee at Crew Stadium might have promoted a real rivalry developing over time. Now, it just looks like a shameless “Kanye West” style PR exercise. Rivalries develop slowly and cannot be actively cultivated. I respect much of what Garber has done as commish (this league might no longer exist were it not for his stewardship), but this step was wrongfooted and should be abandoned.
September 25th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Agreed, John. In 2011, this could be a good opener. But it really takes Toronto fans for granted now.
September 26th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
So,is TFC still mathematically in and/or out completely after the Chcago’s game,for play-offs?
September 27th, 2009 at 1:02 am
Footie:
I don’t believe they’ve actually been “mathematically” eliminated, but given the number of teams they have to leap frog, it’s hard to imagine them getting there.
Speaking personally, I’ve considered them to be out of the playoffs since mid-late August as their end of season sked wasn’t easy (lots of road games, and we know how things go on the road for TFC…).
Is the fact that our guys don’t seem to be able to run a full 90 minutes bothering anyone ELSE??? I can accept that JdG can’t be fit enough for a full 90 given his summer, and that the strikers (or whatever) do get run out as a matter of course, but why is it that the rest of our club seems to be running in sand after 75 mins most nights? Anyone have thoughts on this??
They are all in much better shape than me, so I won’t insult them by mentioning the word… but surely I can’t be the only one thinking it?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:54 am
At this point, I’m reasonably optimistic about 2010.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
they didn’t lose much last night. Yes, New England passed us, but DC lost, Chivas tied, Seattle lost, RSL lost, Colorado ties. A win last night would’ve been huge, but as it is we really do control our own destiny and to be neutral, we have played fairly well the last two games.
September 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
John Bladen…
It really maybe too little,too late,however,next season with Julian,DeRo etc…from the get go,will accumulate far more points etc…
I watched the game yesterday…Couldn’t see Guevara?
I think that Guevara and Julian and De Ro should be structured on the field to keep posession etc…