TFC tremors
By Ben Knight
Okay. After a holiday season drenched in ominous silence, clues are now pouring forth from the good ship Toronto FC.
Two main plot lines:
1) With three first-round draft picks and a roster that needs experience more than youth, TFC is working behind the scenes to deal a draft pick to FC Dallas for Canadian international midfielder Adrian Serioux.
2) Don’t be the least bit surprised to see another draft pick get dealt to any team that can serve up allocation money in return.
As to part one – Serioux is big, tough, relentless, the possessor of the lowest, fastest, most dangerous throw-ins anywhere in MLS. He could superbly anchor TFC’s chronically undermanned back four, as long as his temper doesn’t get him thrown out of games – a danger that could easily be doubled should he be paired in the middle with fellow international hard man and hothead Kevin Harmse.
For part two – allocation cash magically allows MLS teams to temporarily exceed the league’s ridiculously low salary cap. Toronto GM Mo Johnston has amassed a metric whackload of the stuff, between $800,000 and a million, depending on who’s talking on which day.
As suspected, the club’s contract talks with incoming midfield saviour and local hero Dwayne DeRosario have not been all sweetness and light. DeRo wants designated-player megabucks, and the allocation stash could be the only way to get him there. But there’s also the rest of the roster to pay, and if $400,000 of the cap is about to go to our still-anonymous DP, allocation bucks will be the only way of competently filling out the 2009 Redcoat roster.
Remember that having three first-round picks doesn’t mean you’ll get three useful players. Statistically, you’re far more likely to get one and only one guy who’ll be able to start for you for at least three years. Given last year’s Julius James defensive woes, the picks seem far more valuable as trading chits.
Okay, maybe not all three. By all means, draft a hot prospect, Mo. Maybe even two, if you get a lower pick back from Dallas in the Serioux deal.
As for the DP, the January 6 announcement rumour is now obviously toast. The best word I can dig up at the moment suggests the deal will go down a couple of weeks from now. I suppose that still means there’s time for the team to come to their senses, and realize the current DP deal is a pretty raw deal. Allocations can help – hugely – but they’re not necessarily renewable from year to year, so what happens if you give DeRo what he wants, bring in a DP, land Serioux, keep the best of the rest of the roster together – and suddenly it’s 2010?
We’ll know a lot more when we see how the draft picks land. If they start flying out in all directions, in deal after deal after deal, we’ll know for sure a DP is coming, and Mo is putting all his eggs in the Right Now basket.
I’m excited – and worried. How’s by you guys?
Onward!
P>S>>> Where are all the comments? This site isn’t a monologue, people. I want high-quality conversations going on, with everyone contributing. This is your place to sound off. Go for it!
Oh, and …! Congratulations to TFC youngster Nana Attakora-Gyan, who has just been named Canada’s U-20 male soccer player of the year.



January 6th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Hi Ben!
Long time reader (and fan) - first time responder!
I think Serioux would be a good pick up for TFC…that being said I think if he does come in you wont see both him and Harmse play together at CB…too much liability at risk there, not necessarily defensively, but in terms of fouls and cards. Maybe moving JB back into the middle with Serioux would provide a good partnership -leaving Nana the chance to claim the LB spot. Regardless I see a need for a big shakeup in back more than anywhere else on the team. Marshall, Velez - these guys are not the answer and with Harmse available to provide cover at CB, they are essentially expendable (or trade bait?)…with James gone now too, this is the area where we should look to draft a hot prospect. One last thought - what about Carl Robinson eventually moving back to CB in a year or two’s time - his reading of the game is excellent and has great distribution - pair him with a speedier CB and I think you would be alright.
Looking forward to reading more Ben - cheers!
January 6th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Is there a chance Mo is gambling a bit with expectations from the next collective bargaining agreement.
Think about it. If he carries a bloated roster and has to dip in to all his allocation money this year, maybe he’s thinking that given the salary cap is supposed to go up next year it will only be a one year blip. By next year it will all be covered under the cap again.
I don’t think he’s necessarily putting his eggs in the “right now” basket as much as he’s putting them in the “a year from now it won’t matter as much” basket.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Simon, that’s a very intriguing thought.
Only snag I can see is that collective bargaining agreements are very difficult to predict — particularly with a global economic free fall going on.
But Mo likely feels he has no choice but to spend, and will certainly be hoping the cap goes up.
January 6th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Is paying big bucks in the short term with allocation worth it when it’ll only last 2 or 3 seasons? Something important to consider though is the new CBA that will (hopefully) be completed before the 2010 season. There is the potential for an increased salary cap which would soften the blow of losing allocation. The increase in the cap might not be much but it could still change the way GM’s assess their rosters. It’s also possible Mo could clear existing salaries (Marshall for starters). With a cap as low as what this league has for the time being, he would be getting paid too much for a role on the bench.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Not sure what your sources are or why you (and Ives, for that matter) think Serioux is coming to Toronto FC because he isn’t - do you honestly think Dallas is going to give him up for draft picks? Get real!
January 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I wouldn’t put it out of the realm of possibility, but I think it would realistically be something more along the lines of a draft pick, allocation money and maybe a player…I dont think anyone is that naive to think that Serioux would go for just a draft pick…
January 6th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
I agree Ben, it’s hard to have any confidence in the CBA given the current financial climate. However, there’s no way guys like Arthur Blank and other big shot investors are okay with paying the franchise fee if this is a league that will always be bogged down by a suffocating salary cap. These guys must have bigger ambitions for this league.
I think we’re at a cross roads and this CBA is going to say a lot. Though I agree the slow growth model has done them well so far, it’s starting to get in the way. And the fact of the matter is this league is no longer looking for millionaire investors, it’s looking for billionaire ones.
Big fish only want to swim in big lakes.
January 6th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
It would be part of a larger deal, ZZ. (And aren’t you Mr. Happy Pants today?)
And I believe the reason Ives and I are both reporting it is we both have people we trust telling us it is going on.
If Ives is right, and there’s a defender Dallas wants to trade up and get, this could happen very quickly.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Win now, worry about 2010 after this season.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
When considering the back line, remember that we’ll have Dunivant back in play.
Wynne, Harmse, Serioux, Nana, and Brennan gives us some good options.
I don’t see Velez returning, and Marshall may or may not be traded.
Brennan has a lot of competition for a midfield role. His leadership is likely to leave him at the back again.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
RE: It would be part of a larger deal, ZZ. (And aren’t you Mr. Happy Pants today?)
sorry ben. forgive me for being a bit critical and not accepting everything you write as gospel. Didn’t know I was supposed to fawn all over you like everyone else. my mistake.
and you didn’t say it was part of a larger deal. you wrote “TFC is working behind the scenes to deal a draft pick to FC Dallas for Canadian international midfielder Adrian Serioux.”
you aren’t kidding when you proudly proclaim you’re not a journalist….
January 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
I would like to see Serioux here, and I think MoJo has proven he is able to get players he wants for a minimal return.
Right now I’m more concerned with the DeRo salary issue, and whether or not we can get a stud striker here…BEFORE the start of the season
January 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I just wanted to comment on the “Right Now” basket comment. Just about everyone I have spoke with insists that it is playoffs or bust next year, that Mo’s job is on the line. With all the pressure for a DP and playoffs maybe Mo is really putting his eggs in the “shut these people up basket”.
TFC would have made the playoffs if MLS had taken the FIFA calendar into consideration last year. Bringing in DeRo and possibly Serioux would only add to this problem. The value in the draft is that most likely you draft someone who doesn’t get capped.
What if we draft this Gonzalez guy instead of Serioux? Would it really be the end of the world and are we really complaining when Mo is doing exactly what the majority of people wanted?
January 6th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Hey Ben, thanks for giving us stuff to read and talk about during the long cold offseason.
You mention the current DP deal as being a raw deal. Care to elaborate on that? Is he over the hill, overpriced or both?
I assume hes a striker? Any other info or hints would be appreciated.
January 6th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Stryker, I was referring to the rule, not the person.
A DP hogs a quarter of your salary cap, and it’s very hard for one player to haul a team up the standings when the budget has to be slashed everywhere else on the roster.
If each team could have 2 DPs, and they didn’t count against the cap, then we’d be on to something. Right now, I’m really not convinced signing a DP will actually make TFC a better team.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Good news about Nana…I hope he will get some consistent playing time this season.
Whether or not the deal for Serioux goes down, I don’t think it will take much more than a pick to get him. Don’t forget, he was picked in the expansion draft a couple years ago and then flipped for Ronnie O’Brien. O’Brien was later traded for guess what? A first round draft pick.
January 6th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
In all of this I am not really sure what DeRo wants. He knows the way MLS works and if he insists on taking up a large chunk of cap space, that leaves TFC with relatively few options. If I was his handler or adviser I would be telling him to take less now for a greater winfall in the future.
Imagine the endorsement possibilities in Toronto alone (not to mention the rest of Canada) should he become the face of a very successful TFC team, or even, dare I mention it, a championship team. He would be the Adidas and other related products guy for Toronto, Canada, and possibly other places as a successful TFC team also sees action in CONCACAF Champions League etc. Have been in a few different places, I know when I tell them there is a team in the MLS from Toronto (I know I couldn’t believe they didn’t know that in soccer mad Ecuador, but I digress) they become just a little more intersted.
I think DeRo would understand that by now, success leads to more success, and if the bottom line is what he uses to determine success (or worth) then he should be looking at winning….which I hope he is!
January 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
My initial thoughts were along the same lines ACM pointed out. Adding Serioux and DeRo means two more CMNT regulars on our squad.
Sure, there’s no WCQ for us to worry about for the next 3 years, but there is the Gold Cup this summer, as well as a slew of friendlies sure to be held. TFC is slowly aquiring all the Canadian internationals in MLS it seems.
Is this a danger to our playoff chances this upcoming season? Will we again be playing many dates with a depleted roster of less than minimum wage earning youngsters? Or do I have it all wrong? Are TFC’s Canadians mostly soon to be former internationals, with the CMNT looking to build and develope with new youth for the next generation and Brazil 2014?
What are your thoughts Ben et al?
January 6th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Maybe DeRo is considering charging TFC a “turf tax”
January 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Yeah…
Where is DeRo?
I hope he didn’t change his mind?
January 7th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Ben, just a few comments to keep in mind about the allocations:
- the DP rule expires at the end of this year! Even though Becks signed for 5 years the DP rule was only a 3 yr initiative to be reviewed at the end of ‘09. he clearly had outs written in his contract and that’s why Beckham is as good as gone from the MLS this year. (though I’m sure the league will keep the DP rule going forward in some fashion.)
- allocations cannot be used for DP players. it cannot lower the $415K cap hit. it cannot be used to pay the excess either. the amount over $415K has to come from MLSE coffers.
- allocations can only be used on new contracts: 1) new players to MLS, or 2) new contracts for existing players with “MLS approval”. it CANNOT be used to pay down existing contracts.
- the biggest challenge with all of this is the lack of transparency in the MLS. we have no idea what portions of salaries are paid with cap dollars vs allocations dollars. it’s a complete guessing game. (eg, it is my guess Barrett might have been resigned in September with allocation dollars, so that TFC could get Freeman a week later. both contracts were in the $60K range. I have nothing to base this on whatsoever… it just appears convenient to me)
January 7th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Great comments Ben. I read somewhere that Dallas is quite high on a local product coming up in the draft and so might be willing to trade up in the draft to get him… hence the Serioux talk.
Pardon my ignorance about this allocation dough… is this a pot of cash than can be carried forward year to year? or is it a time marked thing to be used or allocated within a set time frame?
January 7th, 2009 at 6:58 am
The way I see it, if Mo doesn’t make an attempt right now to improve things, then people will complain and ask for his head.
If Mo does make an attempt to improve this season while jeopardizing the next few, people will complain.
I’d rather some sort of effort be put forth, than not. Last season was painful to partake in.
January 7th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Re: JDG’s comment
I had forgotten about Dunivant…with him back as a left-sided defender(if he is not traded) that would allow Jimmy B to slide into the middle with Serioux then and give Nana the chance on the right side…not a bad back line with a good mix of speed, experience and toughness..
January 7th, 2009 at 9:47 am
I’m really worried about the DP role. The DP always seems to be a person on the down side of his career and looking to collect one last paycheck before he retires. They usually have no heart, desire, passion and certainly lack pace.
We really need someone that can be a leader and take control of this team. I applaud Jim Brennan and Carl Robinson but we need more. I would like to see this person be a central defender with some poise and ‘presence’ - both Velez and Marshall were awful last year. We gave away too many goals last year in central positions with opponent strikers having too much space and no respect for our defence.
I just don’t know what is out there and avialable at the moment but my opinion is that we need help in central defense and should be the priority.
January 7th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
There is also a chance that Donovan and Beckham will stay in Europe,which would make Galaxy an A-League team.